tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29111830.post915896660785565502..comments2023-10-18T09:49:05.749-06:00Comments on Being the Urban Koda: Right back at you...Urban Kodahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01327437055164051853noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29111830.post-84524027094782578562008-02-16T11:39:00.000-07:002008-02-16T11:39:00.000-07:00Thanks Gats,I think the issue is being confused a ...Thanks Gats,<BR/><BR/>I think the issue is being confused a lot. The Church never actually said they were right behind the immigrants, but that's how they seem to do things - this way they can play the plausible deniability card later.<BR/><BR/>The other argument I've heard is the whole woman caught in adultery thing... The only way you could compare this issue to that, is if the law were to say.. We're not pressing charges, but you have 6 months to leave the US. That's the kind of amnesty I would support. But taking people who have knowingly broken the law and then pretending they have as much right as a US Citizen. Bad, bad move.Urban Kodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01327437055164051853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29111830.post-53431134715860888852008-02-16T10:42:00.000-07:002008-02-16T10:42:00.000-07:00It's a complex issue. Good points.It's a complex issue. <BR/><BR/>Good points.Matsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14075673733386181090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29111830.post-85109793161321246972008-02-15T09:18:00.000-07:002008-02-15T09:18:00.000-07:00KSL (Owned by the Church!) isn't carrying this sto...KSL (Owned by the Church!) isn't carrying this story, shockingly.<BR/><BR/>Deseret News has an article, but it's written in such a way as to hide the issues, focussing on compassion and 'undocumented workers'.<BR/><BR/>Their story is <A HREF="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695253341,00.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>, the comments are from both sides, but I wanted to include 2 below:<BR/><BR/><B>Hit and Run</B><BR/><I>7:09 a.m. Feb. 15, 2008</I><BR/>Did the Brethren offer a solution to the byproducts of illegal aliens? Not that I could see. It is great to take an illegal to lunch and find out about their life, but where does that leave us? Really. Long term, what do we achieve by taking a soft stand?<BR/><BR/>The Church has hit and run with their input, but isn't going to write checks to school districts or pay to keep hospitals open, or subsidize the social services.<BR/><BR/>If they want to help, have them set up an assisted program for self-deportation. Preach the 12th Article of Faith and explain how to liquidate assets and return home in an orderly fashion. Then call on the Saints to add to the fast offering to assist those who have returned home. $50 goes a long way when $1,400 a year is the average annual salary.<BR/><BR/>Now, THAT would be proactive on the part of the church.<BR/><BR/><B>What is going on?</B><BR/><I>7:50 a.m. Feb. 15, 2008</I><BR/>Why is it that if you don't pay taxes you can't go to the temple until you pay them but you can crash the border and sponge off of the taxpayers and that is acceptable? Why aren't we telling illegals to go home and follow the law by coming here legally or stay home?<BR/><BR/>What happened to the article of faith about obeying the law of the land? Also, where is the compassion for the victims of illegal immigrants who are many and growing every day? All the other states are doing the right thing and enforcing the law, if we don't do it Utah will become the national magnet for illegals.<BR/><BR/>If all the local churches want Utah to be a sanctuary state why don't they set up a fund to pay for it? They would lose all their donors, that's why. Bank robbers want a "better life" too and are willing to break the law to do it much like illegal immigrants.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930706558748899868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29111830.post-21360832442832885052008-02-15T07:07:00.000-07:002008-02-15T07:07:00.000-07:00I found this little quote in an unrelated story in...I found this little quote in an unrelated story in the Deseret News.<BR/><BR/><I>The church's public statement gives the legislation almost guaranteed passage, since approximately 80 percent of the legislators are Mormon.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, that's just super, ain't it!Urban Kodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01327437055164051853noreply@blogger.com